20 Questions with Rob “Ninja” Nicholson of Photog Shootout | Los Angeles SMUG Guest Speaker March 2010
Saturday, 13. March 2010
Photographer Rob “Ninja” Nicholson will discuss the theory behind Self-Analysis to grow your photography business. If you have ever met this guy you’ve noticed that he might be a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Sarcastic, blunt, loud and a laugh that would offend a hyena! It works for HIM though and has allowed him to set himself apart in the industry. He will open your minds to the idea that to be a successful photographer has less to do with expensive lenses, time in the industry and editing skills. There are many ways to “make it” as a photographer and Rob will share how making YOU the foundation of your business can lead to success!
After spending six years in the US Navy as a toilet-scrubbing Meteorologist and Oceanographer, he hit the ground running in the photography industry. At the very beginning of his photography career, he realized that his strengths would only take him as far as his weaknesses would allow. Through Self-Analysis he realized his biggest strengths were his personality and his background in research and technology. Rob has been able to build the foundation of his business on those strengths. This has helped him to offer his clients an amazing experience, grow his business and accomplish many of his personal and professional goals. A little over three years as a professional photographer, he has photographed 50+ weddings worldwide and events, including two private events in Jamaica with Prince Charles! So now he has a business that he runs and not a business that runs him. Finding this balance has permitted him to direct some of his efforts toward elevating the photography industry. Rob created and leads the fast-growing nationwide photography group called Photog Shootout. In less than a year, Photog Shootout has grown to 3000+ members with permanent presence in seven cities around the United States.
Peter Garr: I’ve been fortunate enough to get to know you over the past week at WPPI 2010 in Las Vegas, and I have to admit, I had more fun than I’ve had in a long time hanging out with you. For those who have no idea who you are, what’s the one most important thing you’d like everyone to know about you?
Rob Ninja: I am Authentic. There is a Beastie Boys quote that I live by to this day, “Be true to yourself and you will never fall.” If you don’t accept yourself how will you expect other to accept you? Over the last 30 years of my life I have experienced life in a broken family on welfare to rubbing elbows with Prince Charles and everything in between. I never will forget where I came from and who I am. This allows people to accept me for all my strengths and my weaknesses.
Peter: You created and run the nationwide photography group called Photog Shootout. What inspired you to start the group?
Rob: Well, I live in a small town of 4000 people with only a handful of photographers. I would have to drive over a hour just to hang out with any of my photographer friends. Soon I realized that I was not the only one wanting more local community and opportunities for learning. That gave birth to Photog Shootout!
Peter: I know that Photog Shootout is more than just a group of photographers taking pictures. What else does Photog Shootout bring to the table for photographers throughout the nation?
Rob: Community, community….community. One of the most interesting business plans I’ve seen is a small company back East called Service Today. It is an “”An employee-owned company.” Photog Shootout takes a very similar approach. We essentially give our local groups more industry support and visibility. Our niche is a more grass roots approach to creating community. We’ve been able to create consistency and control expectations by building the foundation of our community around the COMMUNITY! Not around an individual, not around a product and not around service. All our event have local models, venues, hair/make-up, leaders and teachers! Giving the locals “ownership” of their own community is key for longevity and success.
Peter: There’s such a wide spectrum of photographers in the industry, from beginners to seasoned veterans. Is there room in the Photog Shootout community for both new photographers as well as those who’ve been shooting for a long time?
Rob: Yes! Photog Shootout is multi-layered. Right now our attendees are still in the beginning stages of their photography. Our Photog Shootout Bosses are the next generation of influential photographers in the industry! We also get some support from more seasoned photographers and other industry partnerships. The best part is we have a “Check your ego at the door policy” and you won’t have to drink the “special kool-aid” after the events!
Peter: What can f ō t ō r a c l e . c o m readers do to get plugged into a Photog Shootout in their cities?
Rob: We are slowly and surely growing. I’m a firm believer of Google’s approach of, “It’s OK if you don’t use Google today because tomorrow we will be so much better.” Photog Shootout isn’t out to dominate the world. We’d rather have five amazing groups then 15 pretty good ones. So we are gonna continue creating an awesome experience for photographers and not try to mature too aggressively. The easiest ways to keep up with what we are doing, follow us on Twitter and/or join your local Photog Shootout Group.
Peter: Are there any plans to have Photog Shootout groups internationally?
Rob: YES…but we want it to be perfect. We don’t need just another notch in our belt. We’ve made some awesome industry contacts and are always looking for ways to stimulate other local photography communities! So…get that passport updated!
Peter: You shot a couple of private events in Jamaica with Prince Charles. What was that experience like?
Rob: It was the hottest, most stressful and most demand event I have ever shot. Although it solidified the fact the my childhood dream of being a professional photographer came true!
Peter: You claim to have a photography business that you run, not a photography business that runs you. Please explain the difference and how do you achieve one over the other?
Rob: When I started my own photography business I wanted to create a certain lifestyle for myself and my family. It seems like many photographers measure their success on how many hours they work and how full their calendar is. The key to creating a semi-automated business is outsourcing your weaknesses, most time consuming duties and/or least profitable line items. Remember that your strengths will only take you as far as your weaknesses allow.
Peter: Your presentation at the March 18 Los Angeles SMUG is about using Self-Analysis to grow your photography business. Can you tell our readers a little bit about this concept and how it’s helped you?
Rob: I believe that the foundation of personal and professional success has to start with truly understanding who YOU are. You can’t set out on a journey with out knowing where you came from. We will do some Self-Analysis and try to uncover the real you.
Peter: You’re based in Delware. What’s the photography industry on the East Coast like and how does it compare to the industry on West Coast?
Rob: To be completely honest its not an East Coast and West Coast thing. Every city is very different from each other. Each community has unique styles, mentalities and people.
Peter: Your name is Rob Nicholson. How did you get or come up with the name, Ninja?
Rob: My shooting style is very Ninja-esk. Very hands-off and non-disruptive to the flow of a wedding day. The name just stuck.
Peter: What’s your favorite Ninja weapon?
Rob: Ninjas don’t believe in favoritism. That would be a weakness. Ninja weapons can come in the form of a coffee mug, penny or even a Flintstones Vitamin. You won’t know until it is too late.
Peter: You spent six years in the Navy as a Meteorologist and Oceanographer. What are some things you learned or experienced in the Navy that have helped your photography business the most?
Rob: Patterns and patience.
Peter: We all have strengths and weaknesses. What’s your greatest strength and what do you do to exercise it?
Rob: Understanding patterns is my greatest strength by far. One example: Since my first day in business I have logged ever single inquiry I have ever received. This has helped me understand the booking window, types of clients and their buying habits. Truly understanding my target market has allowed me to concentrate and maximize my marketing efforts.
Peter: What’s your greatest weakness and what do you do to overcome it?
Rob: Editing by far! After my first wedding, I partnered up with ShootDotEdit and let go of my editing. This was one the most important steps I made for my business. This allowed me to work less IN my business and work more ON my business. “You can’t see the battle field if you are digging fox holes all the time.”
Peter: What’s one piece of advice you can give to a photographer just starting out in the industry?
Rob: Short answer: OUTSOURCE your weaknesses! Long answer: Building a business is like building a house. You should build the foundation of your business on your strength and outsource your weaknesses. Let’s say you are an excellent plumber, but try to learn and do all the other duties required to build a house. It will take so much more time, because you have to learn many things at once, the craftsmanship won’t be high quality and you will make many mistakes! So I believe outsourcing is right for the photographer’s starting out and the seasoned pro.
Peter: What’s one piece of advice you can give to someone who has been in the industry for a long time?
Rob: The tides are changing and technologyis the driving force. The Internet has allowed photographer of all level to maximize their visibility to this new techy savvy generation of consumers. The photography industry is changing and you have to evolve with it to stay relevant.
Peter: When your not busy being a photographer, photography teacher, and industry leader, what do you like to do in your spare time?
Rob: Aren’t photographers always busy?? jk I live at the beach so Sunday Funday volleyball with my family and friends is what I look forward to every week. It is so important to recharge your batteries every once in a while in order to work at full capacity.
Peter: You recently won a mentoring session through the Thirst Relief Mentor Auction with my friend and industry marketing guru, Jeff Jochum. How does it feel to be one lucky S.O.B.?
Rob: Dude. I only bid on Jeff and went big with it! Jeff helped me confirm, question and reevaluate my thoughts about the industry and PhotogShootout. “Lucky S.O.B” is an understatement.
Peter: Can you make me some shoes? *
Rob: Yeah. Penny loafers with a nickel in them are my specialty. *
* Rob and I shared many laughs with each other at WPPI 2010 in Las Vegas last week. The question about Rob making me some shoes is an inside joke that those of you who attended the SmugMug Pro Slumber Party sponsored by Bay Photo Lab at the MGM Grand might remember.
I’d like to give a big shout out to Rob Ninja. Thanks for taking the time to share your answers with our readers!
f ō t ō r a c l e . c o m
Rob Ninja Of Photog Shootout is the special guest at this month’s
Los Angeles SmugMug User Group (SMUG) meeting.
LA SMUG
Thursday March 18, 2010
7:00 PM
The Global Cafe
11002 Ventura Blvd
Studio City, CA 91604
FREE and open to ALL photographers. Tell your friends!
More info at Meetup.com














